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William Gale

Would like to know if anyone has information on 19th century photographer William Gale.According to 1865 and 1868 directories, he operated at 222 Bute Road in Cardiff, Wales.In 1865 was listed as…Continue

Started May 15, 2011

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Michael Hocken replied to Jimmy Leiderman's discussion Elliott & Fry - Copyright Dates in the group Carte de Visite
"A lot of interesting material and images here, and some curious captions indeed. The image of F.E. Guise is captioned "A Neutral Gender", for example. But back on topic, a cursory trawl does seem to suggest that images of seemingly well…"
Aug 18, 2012
Jimmy Leiderman replied to Jimmy Leiderman's discussion Elliott & Fry - Copyright Dates in the group Carte de Visite
"An interesting eBay listing related to Elliott & Fry... Unique ELLIOTT & FRY Victorian Photographic History Archive - http://www.ebay.com/itm/310417467875 The collection, housed in a leather antique cabinet card box, [according to the…"
Aug 9, 2012
Jimmy Leiderman replied to Jimmy Leiderman's discussion Elliott & Fry - Copyright Dates in the group Carte de Visite
"Hi Ron, checked both my email and ning inbox, but no message from you. [?] "
Dec 4, 2011
Ron Cosens replied to Jimmy Leiderman's discussion Elliott & Fry - Copyright Dates in the group Carte de Visite
"Hi, just sent you a conclusion to the examination of over 100 dated E&F cdv and over 50 E&F cdv portraits of famous people. Copyright almost certainly used only for 'celebrities' worth reproducing and selling and of no use in…"
Dec 4, 2011
Jimmy Leiderman replied to Jimmy Leiderman's discussion Elliott & Fry - Copyright Dates in the group Carte de Visite
"Hi Ron, just sent you a message. Thanks for taking the time to help with this 'issue'. Jimmy"
Dec 1, 2011
Ron Cosens replied to Jimmy Leiderman's discussion Elliott & Fry - Copyright Dates in the group Carte de Visite
"Hi,this is an interesting comment and, as Marcel says, I have looked at datingE&F cdv by using the mount designs as well as the reference numbers andcame to the conclusion, not yet proven, that there were TWO sets of referencenumbers - one for…"
Dec 1, 2011
Marcel Safier replied to Jimmy Leiderman's discussion Elliott & Fry - Copyright Dates in the group Carte de Visite
"Brett That's a great resource on the LSPC you have created. I have toyed with the idea of such a listing as I have a lot of their cartes including many of celebrities and also thought of attempting a check list but I have too many other things…"
Dec 1, 2011
Brett Payne replied to Jimmy Leiderman's discussion Elliott & Fry - Copyright Dates in the group Carte de Visite
"In my preliminary and rather rudimentary study of the London Stereoscopic and Photographic Company, http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~brett/photos/eng/lon/londonstereo.html I found that most of the distinct card designs from the…"
Dec 1, 2011
Jimmy Leiderman replied to Jimmy Leiderman's discussion Elliott & Fry - Copyright Dates in the group Carte de Visite
"Excellent piece of advice Michael. Thank you."
Nov 30, 2011
Michael Pritchard replied to Jimmy Leiderman's discussion Elliott & Fry - Copyright Dates in the group Carte de Visite
"In answer to your specific question The National Archives has a useful information for researchers sheet on copyright and Stationers Hall which will help. "
Nov 30, 2011
Jimmy Leiderman replied to Jimmy Leiderman's discussion Elliott & Fry - Copyright Dates in the group Carte de Visite
"Thanks!"
Nov 30, 2011
Marcel Safier replied to Jimmy Leiderman's discussion Elliott & Fry - Copyright Dates in the group Carte de Visite
"Jimmy, you can find some of Elliott and Fry's copyright registrations by searching the National Archives website, for example: tinyurl.com/7mx6keb and tinyurl.com/7mx6keb. Cheers! Marcel"
Nov 30, 2011
Jimmy Leiderman replied to Jimmy Leiderman's discussion Elliott & Fry - Copyright Dates in the group Carte de Visite
"Hi Graham, Marcel... yes but what got me thinking about this was the fact that some 'celebrities' CDVs have the copyright and some others don't. I've seen 'Celebrities' mount variations with Copyright/Square, Copyright…"
Nov 30, 2011
Marcel Safier replied to Jimmy Leiderman's discussion Elliott & Fry - Copyright Dates in the group Carte de Visite
"Jimmy, I concur with Graham but cannot suggest a beginning date for use of the copyright inscription, however studio addresses in the case of Elliott & Fry are of little use in dating as they were at 55 Baker St from 1863 until 1911. Ron Cosens…"
Nov 30, 2011
Graham Wood replied to Jimmy Leiderman's discussion Elliott & Fry - Copyright Dates in the group Carte de Visite
"Hello Jimmy In general cards which are copyrighted by any photographer are not the run of the mill portraits , but would be more likely to be CDV's of celebrities which have been copyrighted in order to prevent other photographers making…"
Nov 30, 2011
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Elliott & Fry - Copyright Dates

 A question for those with knowledge on Elliott & Fry cartes... Was the 'Copyright' caption on cdv mounts started being added after certain date or was it randomly used/not used after its inception? More specifically, is the 'Copyright' caption a good method to date their cartes in addition to studio addresses?See More
Nov 30, 2011

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