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W E Kilburn and John Barrett - The Regent Street Connection
From 1841 to 1855 Regent Street appears to have been the go to destination for many of the early Victorian photographers.Richard Beard opened what appears to have been the 1st professional…Continue
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Erddig - The 1852 Servants Photograph
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Erddig%20Historic%20Photo%20Group%20copy%203.pdfI am currently researching…Continue
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"Hi Marcel
I would welcome any response to my Forum post on W E Kilburn and my blog post on the same and his relationship with John Barrett
The Forum post was on Feb 9 2022 and the original Blog post was on 18July 2020 with notes added on 11th May,…"
W E Kilburn and John Barrett - The Regent Street Connection
From 1841 to 1855 Regent Street appears to have been the go to destination for many of the early Victorian photographers.Richard Beard opened what appears to have been the 1st professional photography studio at the Polytechnic in 1841. Kilburn's studio was at 234 Regent Street from 1845-1855. John Barrett born 1816 had at this time a studio at 222 Regent Street .Barrett was an early Beard licensee. I believe it is very likely that this was the Barrett referred to in my blog W E Kilburn - The…See More
"Kilburn's studio was at 234 Regent Street from 1845-1855. John Barrett born 1816 had at this time a studio at 222 Regent Street.Barrett was an early Beard licensee. I believe it is very likely that this was the Barrett referred to in my blog WE…"
W E Kilburn - The Soldier and the Lady on the Parterre - Revisited
This original blog was posted on 18th July 2020. Since then it has had to date 265 views. It is still on the blogs section should you wish to re read it. But the main question remains un answered and I repeat it here in a further attempt to find an answer So how do cased images come to be taken by the W E Kilburn studio at Erddig and a third possibly so when the large majority if not all of the subjects taken by Kilburn were of notable subjects and subjects with royal connections in the Kilburn…See More
"Jennifer
Thanks for your comments
As noted in the article Victoria Yorke was a god daughter to Queen Victoria and her father was master of the royal household. She would've been in London a lot and there are also images of her by Basano later…"
"Hi there. Really interesting investigation you are carrying out. I have enjoyed educating myself. I have only speculations I’m afraid. What was the connection between the Subjects and the Royal family? Was it possible that the images were…"
"93 Views is great but any feedback however small would be useful"
W E Kilburn - The soldier and the lady on the parterre
When you look on the internet at the many hundreds of daguerreotype images taken by W E Kilburn what you see, apart from the famous image of the 1848 Chartist rally, is almost entirely portraits of famous and well to do clients taken at his Regent Street studios. Although the Royal Collection does have images of servants, grooms, gamekeepers. beaters etc taken outside.So…See More
"Hello Peter
Sorry my piece on the Erddig Servants photo is on Forum page 7 dated April 29 2019
Geoff"
"Martin
Erddig is closed at the moment due to the virus and only a few staff are at the site. But those I have checked with dont think there is a similar subject at Erddig. But what we think is familiar is the detail of the dress. The photograph of…"
"There are daguerreotypes at Erddig the NT property at Wrexham in Kilburn cases. There are also painted salt prints you may find them if you go to National Trust Collections
The image of the lady looks familiar I will ask the house staff if they have…"
"Hello Peter
In my piece on page 7 below re the Erddig 1852 Servants Photograph I had a paragraph on JDL and in particular his wife Mary. Although not what you are looking for I was wondering if you had any information on whether JDL or Mary…"
"I have now found that the photographer of the Erddig 1852 photograph was a Mr Barret, but can not find any information on him. Can anyone help further."
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W E Kilburn - The Soldier and the Lady on the Parterre - Revisited
This original blog was posted on 18th July 2020. Since then it has had to date 265 views. It is still on the blogs section should you wish to re read it. But the main question remains un answered and I repeat it here in a further attempt to find an answer
So how do cased images come to be taken by the W E Kilburn studio at Erddig and a third possibly so when the large majority if not all of the subjects taken by Kilburn were of notable subjects and subjects with royal connections in…
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W E Kilburn - The soldier and the lady on the parterre
When you look on the internet at the many hundreds of daguerreotype images taken by W E Kilburn what you see, apart from the famous image of the 1848 Chartist rally, is almost entirely portraits of famous and well to do clients taken at his Regent Street studios. Although the Royal Collection does have images of servants, grooms, gamekeepers. beaters etc…
Posted on July 18, 2020 at 20:30 — 3 Comments
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- At 17:14 on September 22, 2022,
Anna Sparham said…
Dear Geoff,
My apologies for not getting back to you sooner. And I'm sorry, I don't have much to offer either at this stage. I read with great interest your blog posts. I am currently compiling a list of photographs of interest for a publication, and had drifted to these daguerreotypes as early examples in the NT collection. It is wonderful that you've uncovered Barrett to be the photographer. Just how much detective work goes into such findings for single objects is always a marvel. I am currently unaware of military expertise within the NT however I've fielded some questions to a few colleagues to check. I would love to bring someone in across a number of our photo collections to provide knowledge and understanding for various groups with military contexts, but I'm not currently in a position to do so. Perhaps in the New Year I will be able to look into that more. My only connections with military photographs has been with my work on Christina Broom. As IWM were invested in the book, and the collection overlapped with their own, there lay a justification for assistance. As I say, if I can pursue some external consultancy for some of our collections in the new year I will endeavour to get this looked at. When you say you contacted the Royals and Blues I take it you mean the Household Cavalry - although I know they don't hold the Dragoons records. Their research starts at £35/hr. It would be good to know too the wider context for your research. Best Wishes, Anna
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