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Can you identify any of these photographers?

These were all photographed by Bill Jay and are part of an unseen archive of his work I am attempting to catalogue with his daughters. Any help gratefully received. I know that Daniel meadows and artist Peter Blake are included here.

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Comment by Grant Scott on September 8, 2020 at 7:40

Hi

Thanks William Messer I hope all is well. I have another image of Murray so will cross reference.

Best wishes

Grant

Comment by Grant Scott on September 8, 2020 at 7:39

Hi Stephen Bottomore

Thanks for the comment. have you seen my film on Bill? www.donotbendfilm.com? 

Best

Grant

Comment by William Messer on September 8, 2020 at 1:48

So many familiar faces, such bad memory for names. Agree with young Eiko Hosoe identification, and Barry Lane. The first guy, jumping, is Gary Metz. There are numerous of Bill himself, so not take by him. Could he have grabbed a quick one of HC-B (in a parade); maybe not; also, I think, a cautious snap of Leonard Freed (second row, last group). Also flashing on Lindy Guinness (with Peter Blake). Not sure to use the numerical IDs since the first four rows are also 5-8. In the last row of the initial set of four rows, with the stone bollard-like thing, in the red plaid shirt, that looks like Murray from the Photo-Study Centre at the ICA (Australian bloke, wish I could remember his family name). And while those bookend pictures with Bill feel like Koudelka, for some reason I'm not sure it's Josep (but love the guy sitting on the fence rail).

Comment by Emily Morgan on September 7, 2020 at 16:39

Row 10d, glasses and mustache, might be Harold Jones.  

Comment by Stephen Bottomore on September 7, 2020 at 14:12

I assume that 4th row down, 2nd picture, the figure on right is Bill?

But this comment is not to identify people - it's just to say how much Bill Jay influenced me as a historian of early cinema. It happened like this: In the 1980s when looking for film-related material, I noticed a historical article by Bill in the ‘British Journal of Photography’ and then found others. He had a concept of 'inside-out history' – meaning that the historian looks at what people at the time thought was interesting or important, rather than what we, over a century later, think is important. I was hooked, and in the following years leafed through numerous pre-WW1 trade journals as well as illustrated and comic journals in libraries worldwide in search of commentary on the origins of the movies: I have written two books and numerous articles based on Bill’s concept. It seems I’m not the only media archaeologist to be so influenced, and Erkki Huhtamo pays tribute to Bill in his opening essay in ‘Photography and Other Media in the Nineteenth Century’, ed. Leonardi/Natale (2018).

Comment by Graham Harrison on September 7, 2020 at 13:48

Allan Bovill is correct. See second photo down here:

https://elhurgador.blogspot.com/2014/09/judy-y-los-fotografos-judy-...

Comment by Graham Harrison on September 7, 2020 at 13:02

The writer Colin Wilson (1931-2013) glasses/turtle neck at home in Cornwall by the looks of it. Wilson was part of David Hurn's circle of friends in the late 50s early 60s.

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Comment by Grant Scott on September 7, 2020 at 10:54

Thanks for all of you who are adding to this. Some I already knew some I did not and add extra information to my knowledge of who Bill knew and met. Thanks

Comment by Allan Bovill on September 7, 2020 at 10:45

Row 16 - right. Eikoh Hosoe?

Comment by Allan Bovill on September 7, 2020 at 10:30

Row 16, extreme left - Grey Gowrie?

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