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Earliest wildlife photography?
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Derek Bousé in his book Wildlife Films (2000) says that the earliest known photograph of wildlife (in this case, penguins) showing "real behavior in a natural setting" was taken during the Challenger…Continue

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Started this discussion. Last reply by Richard Sullivan HonFRPS Feb 19.

Which museum first added photographs to its collection?
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This could be a trivia question, but I'm asking it as a serious inquiry. Does anyone know which museum first collected photographs? I'm not looking for the first that exhibited photographs (although…Continue

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Started this discussion. Last reply by Richard Sullivan HonFRPS Sep 9, 2016.

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Richard Sullivan HonFRPS replied to Timothy Greyhavens's discussion Earliest wildlife photography?
"Timothy, I'll also dig into my database  further as well. .There's lots on Livingstone, though that early very few printed halftone images in the journals.None actually! --DickSullivan"
Feb 19
Timothy Greyhavens replied to Timothy Greyhavens's discussion Earliest wildlife photography?
"Very interesting. I'll have to see if there is anything further available without diving into original research. Thanks for alerting me to it."
Feb 18
Richard Sullivan HonFRPS replied to Timothy Greyhavens's discussion Earliest wildlife photography?
"Sorry this may be a repeat but my cat landed on my keyboard. This 2/28/1858 The Journal of Photography RPS The collodion sent is made by Mr. Hardwich [also a noted author of an early handbook on photography] expressly for the purpose. It is intended…"
Feb 18
Noelle Sullivan replied to Timothy Greyhavens's discussion Earliest wildlife photography?
"I have an image from Scotland in the 1890s that shows kittiwakes and guillemots on the rocks, labeled as such. Not sure if the photographer set out to capture the birds, or if it was a lucky chance. Here's the listing on my sale site:…"
Jan 23
Timothy Greyhavens replied to Timothy Greyhavens's discussion Earliest wildlife photography?
"Thank you very much for this information, Dr. Cooper. I appreciate your taking the time to look this up and reply. The Natural History Museum does not list anything by C, Newbold on their website, but I have now contacted them to see what holdings…"
Jan 16
Dr Anthony H. Cooper replied to Timothy Greyhavens's discussion Earliest wildlife photography?
"According to the very interesting book Early Wildlife Photographers by C A W Guggisberg,  On page 14 he notes: "One of the oldest surviving photographs of a 'wild' bird was found in the nineteen-thirties; it is of a stork…"
Jan 16
Steven Evans replied to Timothy Greyhavens's discussion Earliest wildlife photography?
"You  might want to look at works by John Dillwyn Llewelyn ca 1852. Note, these are recreations and the animals are stuffed!"
Nov 29, 2016
Timothy Greyhavens posted a discussion

Earliest wildlife photography?

Derek Bousé in his book Wildlife Films (2000) says that the earliest known photograph of wildlife (in this case, penguins) showing "real behavior in a natural setting" was taken during the Challenger Expedition of 1872. I suppose that the definition of "real behavior in a natural setting" might be debated, and therefore I'm wondering if anyone knows of an earlier image that might fall under this definition.Further, I've been unable to find an online reproduction of the penguin photograph from…See More
Nov 28, 2016
Richard Sullivan HonFRPS replied to Timothy Greyhavens's discussion Which museum first added photographs to its collection?
"The one in Chalon? --Dick Sullivan"
Sep 9, 2016
michael g. jacob replied to Timothy Greyhavens's discussion Which museum first added photographs to its collection?
"I have a strong feeling that the Museum of the History of Science in Oxford may hold that honour. Contact archivist Tony Simcock. I'm sure he'd be happy to tell you."
Jun 10, 2016
Timothy Greyhavens commented on Timothy Greyhavens's blog post Seeking information: early 19th century photographer D Montreal of Paris
"Sandy Wood, Collections Curator at the RSA, has let me know that the exact entry wording in the 1841 catalogue was "Montreal, D, of Paris, 18 Drummond Street." In the catalogue all addresses outside of Edinburgh have their place name along…"
Sep 11, 2015
Larry J Schaaf commented on Timothy Greyhavens's blog post Seeking information: early 19th century photographer D Montreal of Paris
"Marcel, you are always beating me!  While I had the privilege of seeing Alison's proof copy in Edinburgh a couple of months ago, the release date for the US is not until 30 September and I can't wait to see my pre-ordered…"
Aug 31, 2015
Marcel Safier commented on Timothy Greyhavens's blog post Seeking information: early 19th century photographer D Montreal of Paris
"Alison and Sara's magnum opus "Scottish Photography: The First Thirty Years" that you refer to Larry has been published. I got my copy on Friday. It is sumptuous and highly recommended."
Aug 31, 2015
Larry J Schaaf commented on Timothy Greyhavens's blog post Seeking information: early 19th century photographer D Montreal of Paris
"I happened to know Drummond St in Edinburgh and it certainly didn't sound like a Parisian address so that was the first place that I turned.  A fine online resource is the superb and freely available collection of PODs for Edinburgh: …"
Aug 31, 2015
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Seeking information: early 19th century photographer D Montreal of Paris

In research I am conducting about the first exhibitions of photography, I have been made aware of entries in the 1841 Royal Scottish Academy annual exhibition catalogue. Roddy Simpson, in his book The Photography of Victorian Scotland, states that four Daguerreotypes were exhibited, but information I received directly…See More
Aug 30, 2015
Timothy Greyhavens replied to Timothy Greyhavens's discussion Which museum first added photographs to its collection?
"Thank you, Michael. I'd searched here under "first exhibition" but I did not see that particular post. I appreciate your bringing it to my attention. Apparently the people at V & A have not see it either."
Jun 14, 2015

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Seeking information: early 19th century photographer D Montreal of Paris

In research I am conducting about the first exhibitions of photography, I have been made aware of entries in the 1841 Royal Scottish Academy annual exhibition catalogue. 

Roddy Simpson, in his book The Photography of Victorian Scotland, states that four Daguerreotypes were exhibited, but…

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Posted on August 29, 2015 at 20:00 — 10 Comments

Researching historical intersections between photography and philanthropy

I'm exploring the somewhat little-known historical connections between photography and philanthropy, and I'd very much like to hear any insights or suggestions others may have. In the broadest sense of the term "philanthropy" these connections began with Daguerre, who received a 6,000 Franc annual stipend for life from the French government in recognition of his contribution (he also convinced the government to give 4,000 Francs annually to Niépce's estate). Since then various governments,…

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Posted on April 28, 2015 at 21:30 — 1 Comment

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